12-03-2007
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Re: wats up
Not much point on a 16g. A 50 trim is about the biggest I would run on an internal gate. I have seen and ported SCM61's to be internal, but it is costing a bit of power.
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12-03-2007
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Re: wats up
I ran an external wg on my 16g and 50trim, it worked perfect.
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Re: wats up
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Originally Posted by Mr.98GSX
I ran an external wg on my 16g and 50trim, it worked perfect.
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It will work fine, just at those power levels the money would be better spent elsewhere. Porting is cheap compared to an external WG setup.
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Re: wats up
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Originally Posted by JET
It will work fine, just at those power levels the money would be better spent elsewhere. Porting is cheap compared to an external WG setup.
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True, but if he's planning on going to a 50trim then porting a 16g would be a waste.
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12-03-2007
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Re: whats up
Welcome to the Style. Id just finish up with the other mods and turn her up, lots of power being made from 16g's.
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12-03-2007
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Re: whats up
Welcome to Mitsu Style. With your setup I would install a FMIC and ARP head studs then port the turbo or try a LIPP cast o2 housing that we sell to fix the boost creep. Then turn it up to 20-21psi and it should make good power, then if thats not enough buy DSM link and try E-85 to max out the 16g.
~John
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12-03-2007
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Join Date: Nov 2007
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Re: whats up
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Originally Posted by Pushit2.0
Welcome to Mitsu Style. With your setup I would install a FMIC and ARP head studs then port the turbo or try a LIPP cast o2 housing that we sell to fix the boost creep. Then turn it up to 20-21psi and it should make good power, then if thats not enough buy DSM link and try E-85 to max out the 16g.
~John
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that all sounds good but i ran into the issue with the tranny and now im stuck driving it in the winter and being at 10 psi in the winter should be fine im thinking.. but that also gives a chance to save up and do it all in the spring.. LOTS OF PLANS FOR THE SPRING!!!!
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12-03-2007
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flips McGee
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Re: whats up
+1 (again woot JET), you should be able to turn your boost up to, say 16psi, and then it will rise up to 19psi by redline from the boost creep. You should then also be able to set your boost at 19psi, and it will not rise much if any by redline. If this is not the case, something else might be amiss...weird MBC or something?
I love the LIPP housing that LSE sells, it is awesome and I highly recommend it. On the same note, might be $$ more well spent on porting and DSMLink, so you can run E85 next summer
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12-03-2007
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Join Date: Nov 2007
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Re: whats up
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Originally Posted by scheides
+1 (again woot JET), you should be able to turn your boost up to, say 16psi, and then it will rise up to 19psi by redline from the boost creep. You should then also be able to set your boost at 19psi, and it will not rise much if any by redline. If this is not the case, something else might be amiss...weird MBC or something?
I love the LIPP housing that LSE sells, it is awesome and I highly recommend it. On the same note, might be $$ more well spent on porting and DSMLink, so you can run E85 next summer
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so what your saying is if i port and do a dsm link it would stop my boost creep also??? or do i have to go with the LIPP in order so stop the creep??
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12-03-2007
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flips McGee
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Re: whats up
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Originally Posted by GsXtUrBo98
so what your saying is if i port and do a dsm link it would stop my boost creep also??? or do i have to go with the LIPP in order so stop the creep??
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Ya like JET said, porting will help creep, and skipping the LIPP housing could earn you more money to be spent on DSMLink. With that being said, the LIPP housing is AWESOME, and not a waste of money in either way. I used it for about a year on my 2G, and I loved it. Just options options options for ya.
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12-03-2007
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Join Date: Nov 2007
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Re: whats up
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Originally Posted by scheides
Ya like JET said, porting will help creep, and skipping the LIPP housing could earn you more money to be spent on DSMLink. With that being said, the LIPP housing is AWESOME, and not a waste of money in either way. I used it for about a year on my 2G, and I loved it. Just options options options for ya.
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well i appreciate the input on everything that you and jet have been saying there is just so many things that i wanna do to it.... i want to be running about 18 to 19 so if i just turn it up to 18 or 19 it shouldnt creep beyond 19 like you said....
i really want dsm link.. i already have a laptop that i just got like a week ago and i really want 272 cams!! i just cant make up my mind on what im REALLY gonna do next??? if what you say about the 16g being good for some power then i might stick with it for now but i really want to hit 300awhp by next summer
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12-03-2007
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Re: whats up
Just porting would cure the creep, or you can port the turbo and put the LIPP on to stop it. Link won't do anything for creep, he was talking about running E85.
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Re: whats up
SAFC should be fine for a 16g. I would do cams next.
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Re: whats up
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Originally Posted by JET
SAFC should be fine for a 16g. I would do cams next.
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ya but i have an idleing prob and i would like for my car to get a better tune on it...
i went to the dealership and they put a new IAC motor in my car and they set it at 750rpm's and i really dont like its too low so i try to turn it up but even if i do a little at a time the computer resets it back to 750 and i wanna run about 850 or 900 at idle....
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12-03-2007
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Re: whats up
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Originally Posted by GsXtUrBo98
ya but i have an idleing prob and i would like for my car to get a better tune on it...
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You need to fix the problems then, don't just throw parts at it. You car should always be running good before you upgrade parts, right Swifty??
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Re: whats up
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Originally Posted by JET
You need to fix the problems then, don't just throw parts at it. You car should always be running good before you upgrade parts, right Swifty??
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dont get me wrong, it runs good i just would like for it to idle at a higher rpm and it just wont do it for me plus i need to fix the lifters on the cyl. head anyways so while im getting that done i might as well just put cams in there ya know what i mean...
its not like its something i need just what i want!! ha ha
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12-04-2007
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Re: whats up
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Originally Posted by GsXtUrBo98
dont get me wrong, it runs good i just would like for it to idle at a higher rpm and it just wont do it for me
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Have you tried the idle adjustment screw? There is that and the BISS. You should do a boost leak test too.
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12-03-2007
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AWD4G64
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Re: whats up
The only problem with running E85 is that there is no gas station around us that sells it. The closest one is on lexington and 35E or on 96 in whitebear. I wanted to go to E85 but noone sells it. Do you know if the gas station at the end of ware rd sells it?
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Join Date: Nov 2007
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Re: whats up
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Originally Posted by blageo23
The only problem with running E85 is that there is no gas station around us that sells it. The closest one is on lexington and 35E or on 96 in whitebear. I wanted to go to E85 but noone sells it. Do you know if the gas station at the end of ware rd sells it?
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no they dont im really not sure about who sells it around us. you obviously know more about who sells it around here.
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12-03-2007
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AWD4G64
Join Date: Jun 2004
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Re: whats up
Cuz I want to run it REALLY bad. They need to sell it somewhere around here damnit!!!!
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